define "win" Vinny !seems unlikely ,but both countries losing a...

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    define "win" Vinny !

    seems unlikely ,but both countries losing a lot of ordinance and men , if Putin keeps going too long IMO while unlikely , is possible for Ukraine to win.
    You say Putin won't give up , neither will Ukraine and even in the east ,which is supposed to be Russia freindly, the gains re snails pace so don't buy that argument or we'd be expecting to see Russian dominance already - we aren't , nearly stalemate .

    Most likely outcome Russia holds conquerred teritories and Ukraine holds what it has now .
    Is that a win for Putin ?

    Remeniscent of the winter war with Finland where USSR forced to give up but did take some territory .
 
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