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05/07/22
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Originally posted by tangs:
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define "win" Vinny ! seems unlikely ,but both countries losing a lot of ordinance and men , if Putin keeps going too long IMO while unlikely , is possible for Ukraine to win. You say Putin won't give up , neither will Ukraine and even in the east ,which is supposed to be Russia freindly, the gains re snails pace so don't buy that argument or we'd be expecting to see Russian dominance already - we aren't , nearly stalemate . Most likely outcome Russia holds conquerred teritories and Ukraine holds what it has now . Is that a win for Putin ? Remeniscent of the winter war with Finland where USSR forced to give up but did take some territory .
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Fair point. Your second last paragraph certainly may well be the outcome, but the way the war is proceeding in it's current form, it seems unlikely. Putin appears undeterred by sanctions and as we know, he is reaping in more money than prior to the war. If the friendly allied countries can assist with 'energising' European countries, to the exclusion of Russian energy, then I think there is a chance for the outcome you mentioned.
Originally posted by tangs:
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define "win" Vinny ! seems unlikely ,but both countries losing a lot of ordinance and men , if Putin keeps going too long IMO while unlikely , is possible for Ukraine to win. You say Putin won't give up , neither will Ukraine and even in the east ,which is supposed to be Russia freindly, the gains re snails pace so don't buy that argument or we'd be expecting to see Russian dominance already - we aren't , nearly stalemate . Most likely outcome Russia holds conquerred teritories and Ukraine holds what it has now . Is that a win for Putin ? Remeniscent of the winter war with Finland where USSR forced to give up but did take some territory .
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