Thing is, these folk are only able to talk about a wishlist and cherry pick from the last year. We can't know what a large group of people is going to do to push the price up or down, but we can speculate about the things that will influence them. These folk don't even think about the fact that the mature market is a lot more than sales. Right now the SP is slowly moving up on low volumes - that is what normally happens with retail, although often large volume. Then the sales figures come out, everyone goes weak at the knees and reposts the sales figures and then it all falls down. In this case the half yearly is 1 month behind and that is where the real action is