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    On another topic it has been interesting to observe peoples reactions to the project take over and the delay in the DFS.

    I am sharing the below as a little bit of education as I found it interesting.
    Helped me understand why my reactions are sometimes different to others.
    ...and it helps me understand others.

    ALL IMO

    With regards to the DFS delay, we can agree some holders got really fired up. (as is anyone's right)
    This seemed somewhat in contrast to how I was feeling.
    i.e. the DFS is not my end game.
    My end game is dividends. (I appreciate that is not everyone's end game.)
    I have a longer range view of ADN.

    As investors we should all have vision of our exit.
    Is it a monetary value, a timeline, or a milestone, or dividends and pass the shares to your kids?
    If your timeline is seeing ADN into production please understand you are likely here for a minimum of 2 years to see ADN reach nameplate and have a good 6-12 months of revenue from product delivery. ...and it could be 5 years if you want to see Mt Hope and Camel Lake come on stream. The runway is long with ADN with all the nanotech opportunities.

    So, the timing of the DFS and ML means little to me unless the project timeline pushes out.
    Whilst we are seeing some timeline slippage it appears to be waiting on the SA Govt for ML not the DFS.
    ...and IMO we should allow for some slippage of timelines for a new producer with a novel refining process.

    Over the weekend I saw a reference on another HC thread to Hyperbolic discounting
    It is interesting and somewhat explains how we react to situations. Worth a read.
    i.e. the study of Hyperbolic Discounting says most people want smaller gains now rather than bigger gains in the future.
    (at least that is how I interpret it the study)

    One point of view is the delay in the DFS has been JM saying
    "Look, please wait a little longer for a bigger prize in the initial production years and hopefully no more dilution."

    Much respect to all
    GLTAH DYOR

    Hyperbolic Discounting

    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    In economics, hyperbolic discounting is a time-inconsistent model of delay discounting. It is one of the cornerstones of behavioral economics[1][2] and its brain-basis is actively being studied by neuroeconomics researchers.

    According to the discounted utility approach, intertemporal choices are no different from other choices, except that some consequences are delayed and hence must be anticipated and discounted (i.e., reweighted to take into account the delay).

    Given two similar rewards, humans show a preference for one that arrives sooner rather than later. Humans are said to discount the value of the later reward, by a factor that increases with the length of the delay. In the financial world, this process is normally modeled in the form of exponential discounting, a time-consistent model of discounting. Many psychological studies have since demonstrated deviations in instinctive preference from the constant discount rate assumed in exponential discounting.[4] Hyperbolic discounting is an alternative mathematical model that agrees more closely with these findings.

    According to hyperbolic discounting, valuations fall relatively rapidly for earlier delay periods (as in, from now to one week), but then fall more slowly for longer delay periods (for instance, more than a few days). For example, in an early study subjects said they would be indifferent between receiving $15 immediately or $30 after 3 months, $60 after 1 year, or $100 after 3 years. These indifferences reflect annual discount rates that declined from 277% to 139% to 63% as delays got longer.[6] This contrasts with exponential discounting, in which valuation falls by a constant factor per unit delay and the discount rate stays the same.

    The standard experiment used to reveal a test subject's hyperbolic discounting curve is to compare short-term preferences with long-term preferences. For instance: "Would you prefer a dollar today or three dollars tomorrow?" or "Would you prefer a dollar in one year or three dollars in one year and one day?" It has been claimed that a significant fraction of subjects will take the lesser amount today, but will gladly wait one extra day in a year in order to receive the higher amount instead.[6] Individuals with such preferences are described as "present-biased".

    The most important consequence of hyperbolic discounting is that it creates temporary preferences for small rewards that occur sooner over larger, later ones. Individuals using hyperbolic discounting reveal a strong tendency to make choices that are inconsistent over time – they make choices today that their future self would prefer not to have made, despite knowing the same information. This dynamic inconsistency happens because hyperbolas distort the relative value of options with a fixed difference in delays in proportion to how far the choice-maker is from those options.[7]

    Last edited by Rhino1963: 14/11/21
 
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