think they are different animals though and still see plv having a bright future eventually, think however expectations were raised and the disappointment is evident at present, the problem here has been one of managing expectations imo, in any case quite a good chunk of money needs to be raised to pay out cliffs and for drilling and admin so now perhaps the best thing to do is a roadshow and a concept study outlining what plv wishes to achieve at irvine (along the lines of what bau did), then again i would not be surprised if we are merely in a game of brinkmanship and the chinese or indians pony up what is merely chump change, say $15m and we all get on with life...let's see how it plays out, was pleased it held to 50cent level. if it can consolidate around here it won't be too bad
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