A lesson in History of Climate alarmism

Originally posted by birdman29 ↑

Re,
Who are more likely to have a tertiary science background?

Alarmists or denialists?

Have a go?

Here you go ...

Scientists questioning the accuracy of IPCC climate projections

These scientists have said that it is not possible to project global climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for temperature and sea-level rise over the 21st century. They may not conclude specifically that the current IPCC projections are either too high or too low, but that the projections are likely to be inaccurate due to inadequacies of current global climate modeling.
Australia

Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellowAustralian National University.[19][20]

Canada

Susan Crockford, Zoologist, adjunct professor in Anthropology at the University of Victoria.[21][22][23]

Ross McKitrick, professor of economics and CBE chair in sustainable commerce,University of Guelph.[24][25]

Patrick Moore, former president ofGreenpeaceCanada.[26][27][28]

Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics atUniversity of Ottawa, research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and soil science.[29][30][31][32]

Germany

Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a doctorate in chemistry.[33][34]

Netherlands

Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute.[35][36]

Norway

Ivar Giaever, Norwegian–American physicist and Nobel laureate in physics (1973).[37]

Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University.[38][39]

Sweden

Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics Department atStockholm University, former chairman of theINQUACommission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999–2003).[40][41]

Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry atRoyal Institute of Technology, Stockholm.[42][43]

United Kingdom

David Bellamy, botanist.[44][45][46][47]

Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist,Reading University.[48][49]

Piers Corbyn, owner of the business WeatherAction which makes weather forecasts.[50][51]

Michael J. Kelly, Prince Phillip Professor of Technology at the Department of Engineering, Cambridge University.[52][53]

Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at theUniversity of London.[54][55]

United States

Judith Curry, professor and former chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at theGeorgia Institute of Technology.[56][57][58][59]

Robert E. Davis, Professor of Environmental Sciences at the University of Virginia.[60][61][62]

Joseph D'Aleo, past Chairman American Meteorological Society's Committee on Weather Analysis and Forecasting, former Professor of Meteorology, Lyndon State College.[63][64][65][66]

Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences,Institute for Advanced Study;Fellow of the Royal Society.[67][68]

Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric science at theMassachusetts Institute of Technologyand member of theNational Academy of Sciences.[68][69][70][71]

Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for Air and Stream Improvement.[72][73][74][75][76][77][78]

Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 astronaut, former US senator.[79][80]

Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor of atmospheric science at theUniversity of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.[81][82]

There are many more !!

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Look I apologise for being a bit late to this discussion and only reading a few posts, but bird man did make me laugh with a few. Now I admit to being a climate change sceptic particularly man-made climate change. But I am a farmer and I do follow the weather and I have read a fair amount of forecasts. That is why I concur with another post further down from this one which questions the accuracy of a lot of the models. Yes I have seen a lot of forecast, and go and a lot of them are wrong so how can I accurately predict something in 20 or 30 or 40 years time.

20 years ago we had a forecasting “revolution” called the southern all oscillation index and its links to La Nina and El Niño.We, as farmers were basically told that’s all we had to follow to get an idea of the Forecast for the season. However in more recent years ( wet years of 2010 it got a lot of mentions) the Indian Ocean dipole has been mentioned, and now it seems to be the crux of the matter. Don White from weatherwatch is one of the better forecasters in Australia and he has also talked about the southern ocean a lot lately and there is a term for it I can’t remember at present....The thing that concerns me , and does make me question my sceptical stance, is how he is linking a hotter atmosphere to the weather systems travelling further south than they should! He also spoke of his observations last Summer about the systems “ slowing up” , hence longer heatwaves and longer floods( nq).

However I do go back to the fact that the likes of Inigo Jones forecast these droughts based on planetary cycles six decades ago....I do read a bit of David Burton in the your trading edge magazine also , and he has very detailed research about the planetary cycles and weather.....So summing up, I actually think that no one really knows. Me, I believe in cycles both in the financial markets and in a lot of other things, so I believe the biggest influence at the moment is cyclical, probably linked to the planetary cycles and their influences on sunspots and vice versa.