CENSUS HAS SPOKEN: GOD HAS BEEN ABANDONED

Originally posted by gumUnderfoot ↑

@Copperbod script editor bug.

You sound very confident that this is the only alternative.

It's either guess or have verifiable evidence of fact.

You dismiss the idea that physical life "may" have a purpose and reason

When you say "may" is that guessing or from verifiable evidence of fact?
Are you sure I am dismissing the idea?
I guess, I think I am living my purpose and reason.
Now what might that be?

and yet search scripture for confirmation that your incomplete view about flesh and spirit is OK.

I'll run it by again. I'll take a step back before moving on again.
Ready?
I had concrete experiences with the spiritual realm. It IS.
I found myself reading the bible and all through it associates with what IS.
It does confirm with what IS and well, personally, I don't see the view incomplete.
Whether it is OK or not, remains to be seen.

How do you think my view might compare with your view, guessing or verifying with evidence, that physical life may have purpose and reason?
See, if you can, I have two perceptions. Here and over there. Which one being which?
One of the physical, that may or may not have purpose and reason and one of the spiritual.

If this physical existence is inconsequential because it may be over almost before it began or is a firefly in a Universe of Celestial Stars, why do the scriptures you search make clear it is very important.

Sure, well, I'd like to see humans get along a little better. Doesn't have to be much better but better just the same. It says such stuff in the scriptures of hows and maybes. Along with the contradictions, hypocrisy and unbelievable stuff.

The scriptures do and don't give importance to physical existence. I align closer with those that suggest the physical life is inconsequential and to move on to the spiritual aspects.
Pick up the cross and follow so to speak.
I'm not going to dictate to anyone not to remain in the behind. I know they'll catch up.

Some even claim that the Creator of the Universe sent His only Son to experience and impact on this physical existence. Why bother if it is inconsequential ?

Try considering from where this Son came from and where he went to and how does one get there.
Where does the physical existence sit within that journey?
If nobody goes, then nobody knows.
If they remain in the behind, they remain in the behind. You seem to think I can change their insistance.
What is your purpose and reason in your enquiries?
Are you proposing that you may be able to change my journey?
Straighten me out with the physical life may have purpose and reason?

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"When you say "may" is that guessing or from verifiable evidence of fact?"

"May" referred to my understanding of your view based on your HC P&R history.
That word is not part of my view.

Consider that as part of Humanity and Nature, you have a purpose and reason for being alive ...whether you are aware of it or not.
For an individual there are more reasons and purposes to progressively identify .. or not.
These range from remembering to put the toilet seat down etc etc, to devoting your life to genuinely assisting others to question their own (in)significance.

Then, there is the question of whether we are made in the image of Higher Beings and if so, where this "higher self" is since clearly it doesn't trumpet it's presence and like "God" does not intervene in your daily life.

Opening to this "higher self" of genuine Conscience/Consciousness is not only the first step but could be part of each step.
Not to be confused with ordinary conscience put into us by societal influences and those around during our formative years. Sometimes a more or less decent grounding but mostly a prison.

"What is your purpose and reason in your enquiries?
Are you proposing that you may be able to change my journey?
Straighten me out with the physical life may have purpose and reason?"

Change your journey ? Only you can do that
At present you seem stuck in a "gumwarp" owing to your incomplete understanding of the "Spiritual Realm" experience you had.
Despite your refusal to expand on the details, it is interesting.

"The scriptures do and don't give importance to physical existence. I align closer with those that suggest the physical life is inconsequential and to move on to the spiritual aspects.
Pick up the cross and follow so to speak. "

"Pick up the cross and follow" is a physical analogy.
Death on the cross was physical. Jesus mission was physical. The development of Christianity was physical.
"Resurrection" refers to the bridge between physical and spiritual.

It's not a question of discarding "physical" in favour of "spiritual".
This is aberration.
The task is to reconcile the physical and the "spiritual" for the growth of being.

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PS.
You didn't address the question about Jesus and why his physical sojurn ... if physical is insignificant.