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Originally posted by ppm56: ↑

Three can't become one and one can't become three. It's either one or three. The reality of God depends on oneness, so the Trinity in its Catholic form is heretical.

There is a trinity of sorts, God, His outpouring of Grace (Holy Spirit) active in the heart of Jesus and Jesus the perfect mirror reflecting the Will of God upon humankind.

The Trinity is the Catholic equivalent of the JW 1914 prophecy and declaration.
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Hi waffle, that would be correct on this side of creation, but God is not of this side, in infinity all will be in all, no division
Some time ago, again it was in response to wotsup, you wrote this, (below highlighted) I thought it made perfect sense as you are gifted at times of hitting the nail on the head so I kept it.

It answers your above post as to why we have Jesus and the Trinity

“it's the means by which a Transcendent, Infinite, Unfathomable Father might become Finite, Fathomable and amongst us WITHOUT having to change His nature.”

Jesus is the means by which a Transcendent, Infinite, Unfathomable God became Finite, Fathomable and amongst us WITHOUT having to change His nature to reconcile humanity, it makes perfect sense of what the early church also believed, we see this in the first generation of Christian believed.

Ignatius of Antioch (died 98/117). Bishop of Antioch. He wrote much in defense of Christianity
“We have also as a Physician the Lord our God Jesus the Christ the only-begotten Son and Word, before time began, but who afterwards became also man, of Mary the virgin. For ‘the Word was made flesh.’ Being incorporeal, He was in the body; being impassible, He was in a passable body; being immortal, He was in a mortal body; being life, He became subject to corruption, that He might free our souls from death and corruption, and heal them, and might restore them to health, when they were diseased with ungodliness and wicked lusts.”

We also see that there can be no more ancient title of almighty God than that of “Father,” and it is through the Son that He is Father, from this we see that God was always a Father from eternity, even before the incarnation, oneness of God, God is one, but consisting of 3 persons, Father, Son and the Holy Spirit

God being “all in all” is rooted in the truth of Jesus’ resurrection and the resultant future, when Christ returns and “the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all” (1 Corinthians 15:28).even oneness with creation

And no, its not a CC creation, its right there in the Gospel, if you read it in the sense it was written, one must remember and take account that much division has entered through the last 2000 years

The answer is simple: the Trinity is a biblical doctrine, and it was taught before with the apostles.

Part of the reason that the Trinity doctrine was not “officially” taught until the time of the Council of Nicaea is that Christianity was illegal until shortly before the council. It wasn’t really possible for official Christian groups to meet and discuss doctrine. For the most part, they were fearful of making public pronouncements concerning their faith. As it was, the person of Christ was attacked. When the Church defended the deity of Christ, the doctrine of the Trinity was further defined.

The early church believed in the Trinity as is evidenced by the quote above, and it wasn’t necessary to really make it official. It wasn’t until errors started to creep in that councils began to meet to discuss the Trinity as well as other doctrines that came under fire.

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And no, its not a CC creation, its right there in the Gospel, if you read it in the sense it was written, one must remember and take account that much division has entered through the last 2000 years
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You're right ppm, these pagan concepts preceded the CC. For example, ancient Babylon featured the worship of Semiramis and her infant Nimrod, so similar to the worship of Madonna and child in apostate Christianity. In his book “Ancient Pagan and Modern Christian Symbolism,” Thomas Inman says of mother-and-child images: “Such groups are as common in India as in Italy, in pagan temples as in Christian churches. The idea of the mother and child is pictured in every ancient country of whose art any remains exist.”

The Roman Catholic cardinal John Henry Newman, in his “Essay on the Development of Christian doctrine,” wrote of many such practices and doctrines, saying that they “are all of pagan origin” and that they are “sanctified by their adoption into the church.” But the latter is not so! By embracing Babylonish beliefs and ceremonies, modern-day Catholicism and Protestantism, along with Judaism, have added no holiness or sanctity to false religious practices and doctrines. Rather, they have identified themselves as daughter organizations of “Babylon the Great.”—Rev. 17:5.

These “daughter” religions have shared prominently on both sides in the crusades and other sectarian wars of history. The two world wars of modern times got started between so-called “Christian” nations, while Shintoists and Buddhists also became deeply involved. On both sides, the religious clergy contributed to whipping up the war fever. Rather than represent the ‘God of love,’ the world empire of false religion has always been a leading fomenter of hatred.