Russia Ukraine war, page-231125

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    you want to go down this point scoring road again?

    righty-o, tangy pants.

    ussr took control over half of eu, while us took over the other half. noboddy asked them whether they wanted to be controlled by us so us controlled the other half against the will of other nations 1:1

    iron curtain is a label assigned to a physical and a political divide between communism and capitalism. both sides contributed to this "iron curtain" 2:2

    partition of poland. before that, poland annexed parts of czechoslovakia. so?
    btw you've implied multiple times that annexing territories was all good right up until the end of ww2. so why are you whinging about it now? 3:3

    russ expansionism

    crimea voted to join russia 4:3
    donetsk and lugansk regions self proclaimed independence, then signed a co-operation/security agreement with russia, which legally allowed russia to defend those regions in the event those regions got attacked. 5:3
    georgia - was a result of us/nato political meddling. which was aimed at splitting georgia away from the russian sphere of influence. us/nato meddled in urkaine and georgia using the same 'manual'. 6:3
    south osetia conducted a referendum and voted to become independent from georgia 7:3
    russia did not steal any georgian lands. south osetia is an independent republic 8:3

    since 1990 usa initiated hundreds of military interventions, killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, displaced millions, caused an enormous amount of chaos and instability all over the globe. oh they didn't grab any lands? oh, wow, they are so nice. they only grabbed control of country's governments, exploiting those countries in any way possible, including financially. 9:3

    usa is also largely responsible for the current chaos in ukraine, which it provoked. with the main trigger event being an illegal coup, that us government supported 10:3

    anything else?

 
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